ops, fixed!
Alessandro

very good points. Just one thing, those are just some of the things that you cannot do. Which actually goes back to my point that you need to design for the mobile.

Agree totally with your last sentence! 4 M again 400 M !! Plus if you do not want to do FL, there are 3.5 Billions mobile phones to look at!!

Alessandro

There are other considerations that people seems to not worry about: touch screen devices do not send “mouse over” events and a lot of Flash sites rely on those events to open, close menus and do other things, so many web sites would be unusable anyway. Gestures: people get iPhones because they can pinch the screen to zoom in, zoom out and so on using intuitive finger movements, these things are not supported by Flash at all (Flash has a single point to receive “mouse down, up, move” information, it is unable to detect more than one screen event at once). It is not just a business decision, it was the right decision in my opinion. Also, AS3 VM do not support ARM jitted code yet, so uncompiled actionscript code would have introduced even more slowness.

Why worrying about 4 million devices that can’t surf the Flash web, while other 450 millions can’t do it either?

So you’re pretty much stuck with whatever advertising everyone else would see.

good point! Mobile site needs to give the user the only information they are looking for or at least don’t bother them!!

This is due to one very important reason, the mobile phone is a very personal device. This is something that mobile developer should always keep in mind!

Alessandro

Flash Lite 3 is basically Flash 8 + Flash Video.
Flash Lite 2.x is basically Flash 7
Flash Lite 1.1 is basically Flash 4

My opinion is that mobile web site should be designed for mobile devices which means content needs to be create for mobile.

A developer should take into account the limitation of the technology.

To me is a business decision. As for the email, maps and 3G on the iPhone.
Email, they used Yahoo, because Yahoo use Flash for the maps.
Maps, they used Google since they do not use Flash. Licensing fees!
Also 3G, Apple would have to pay licensing fees to Qualcomm!

Alessandro

I’m just wondering if Flash Lite 3 is suitable for the iPhone.
A lot of the complaints are from people browsing the web not being able to see Flash content.
How does Flash Lite 3 solve that?
Can Flash Lite run versions 6,7,8,9 content?

It seems to me Adobe already saw this coming.
Is ‘Tamarin-tracing’ the future for the Flash Player on Mobile Devices.

I don’t agree its just a business decision.
If the player runs slow, it shouldn’t be added.
but thats just an opinion.

Bjorn

@John, is clearly a business decision not a technical one.

@Bjorn, yes. OEMs do the integration between the mobile web browser and the Flash Lite runtime.
For example the Nokia N95 has Flash Lite 2.0 integrated into the S60 browser.
Nokia new handsets, such as the Nokia N96, will have Flash Lite 3.0 integrated with Flash Video capability.

One thing to understand is that the FL runtime is not upgradeable or installable by the users, but is the OEM that might choose to integrate the runtime into the latest firmware of the device. This is how mobile world works.
Here I have listed the various implementations of the Nokia devices versus Flash Lite: http://flashlite4nokia.com/

Alessandro

Too bad if this turns out to be true, because the lack of Flash is what is keeping me from enjoying an iPhone. Too many sites I traffic often use Flash in one form or another.